Well my experiment continues. I’m having fun trying different things with Jet’s flyball box. My concern is to get his rear up on the box, and pushing off the box, while the ball is in play. He has a great flyball box turn when there is no ball. But once the ball is in play, he forgets he has a rear and doesn’t use it to push off the box.
The below is a continuation of my idea… this time with a ramp. We did this training on March 11, 2011.
My husband helped me build this ramp and so far, so good. Here’s more training from the following day, March 12, 2011.
The videos are rather self explanatory I think, I’ve put text on them with my thoughts about what I’m doing.
I’ve modified the method a bit and I’ll post that up next. I wish I had some outdoor lighting fixtures so that I could train outdoors. But then, the weather needs to warm up too!
Last night I was able to go home and work Jet on my new ideas of flyball box training. The more I think about it, the more I think that this method that I’ve come up with is not really anything new. Instead it’s basically just using a really high prop so that the dog is forced to bring his whole body over the prop, onto the box to get the ball, and back over the prop again, using his rear to push off in both directions (especially pushing off the box).
I started just with an agility jump, because that’s all I have at home right now. I can pick up my home made prop from practice next Sunday. But I kinda like the agility jump because I can set the bar as high as I like. I didn’t like that the bar was dropping, so I think next time I’ll tape the bar onto the stanchion with some duct tape or something to get it to temporarily stay in place.
As you’ll see in the video, I put the ball on the other side of the jump, rather close to the jump. The first couple of times Jet had to figure out that the ball (one of his favorite toys) was close to the jump. After a couple of times it seemed like his rear was too far away from the jump, so I put a chair behind it so he’d have to coordinate himself to land square and avoid the chair.
He did go around the jump to come back to me a couple of times, so I put up another barrier so he had to jump over, get the ball, and jump back to bring it back to me.
After a bit I introduced the clicker, and tried to reward using the click/ball. But he was really looking for a treat once he heard the click. So I also brought treats, but then he kinda lost his head for a bit until we worked out that he had to jump, get the ball, jump back, and then he’d get a click and a treat.
I’m not certain I’m going to keep using the clicker. I wanted to mark his correct behavior, but playing with the ball may really just be enough. The clicker might be too much for him to think about the jump, but we’ll see how it goes.
All in all I was pretty pleased with the progress he made. From our seminar with Touch N Go that I went to back in, oh, 2008, they really emphasized that, for dogs having a hard time with the box and getting all four feet on, to build a really tall prop, even tower-like, if necessary. I’m thinking that this jump style is really similar. But instead of getting the prop in front of the box, I’m just using a dead-retrieve ball on the other side of the jump. He still has to pull his entire body over the jump, get the ball, then pull his body back over the jump to get back to me. What I will probably do is build the ramp I want to build (see prior post) and also use this high jump/prop method to get him to pull all his feet over and back on the box. And still include the ball, because it’s when the ball is introduced that his box turn disintegrates.
So this is the theory, anyway. I’ll keep taking videos and posting about how it works. I am thinking about it a lot, and I think it’s going to work well, but you never know what a dog will pull out of his doggie-hat and do to make things more complicated. So I’m keeping my eyes and mind open for variations if needed!
I’ve tagged this post, and will tag the others, with the “Flyball Box Training” tag if you want to follow along easily.
Well, our next dog sport activity will be flyball at the end of this month. And so now I’m trying to focus on Jet’s box turn. And I’m not really happy with it at the moment. When the ball goes into the box, he forgets about his rear. If there is no ball in the box, he has a nice swimmer’s turn. I need to get some more video and post it up. I’ve loaned the practice box I had… Continue reading »
Well I have to say that Jet’s flyball box turn is coming along really well! Putting wraps on his back feet are helping him to get those rear feet up on the box when he’s grabbing the ball. So now he’s grabbing the ball more times than he is fumbling it, and he’s also getting his rear feet up and pushing off with them. He’s starting to get a good flyball box swimmers turn! He is such a goof. He’s… Continue reading »
Well I finally went to the U-FLI website to check out Jet’s scores, and they are there! I just love seeing the numbers on the web sites. Jet’s Singles Races are up. His fastest time was 5.193. That’s not really very fast but I think he’ll speed up once he gets the hang of it. I’m so pleased with my goofy boy. He’s so smart, and he’s doing so well. I’m probably going to enter him in Wildcard Obedience this… Continue reading »
Okay yeah I’m a nut. Jet is not ready to be racing in Flyball… but I’ve been itching to enter him in something. LOL. So on Friday, a fun surprise happened, and they were accepting day of show entries for Singles and Pairs at the U-FLI Flyball Tournament! Well of course I had to enter him. LOL So now I’m watching the video and I’m thinking that he’s really hitting the box with his shoulders, and he’s not hitting it… Continue reading »
A weekend with the boys is awesome. I do wish that I could bring Levi too… and even Tatum, because they love to travel and the do so good at it. But the van is only so big and so some have to stay home. As this posts I am still, yet again, at flyball. But I love spending time with Jet and Chase and having a stress-free competition weekend. I don’t stress at flyball. Not like agility or obedience.… Continue reading »
We are going to the last flyball tournament of the year this weekend. Leaving Friday (today), coming back Monday. I really don’t have enough leave to take all of Monday off work, but when I get back on Monday I’m going to be so tired that I probably won’t have enough energy to log into work and work, anyway. Oh well, I’ll give it a good try, anyway. Chase will have fun doing flyball again. And Jet… well, I’m amazed… Continue reading »
Tip Tail is about two Smooth Collies, two Border Collies, and one Danish/Swedish Farmdog. Our adventures include dog training for obedience, agility, and flyball, and anything else we can fit in! We also love to just play and have fun. We all live in Salt Lake City, Utah. The human behind it all is me, Cynthia!
The Dog Pack
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Chase - Spirit Chasers Spice
Tatum - Tatum Tot Spice
Muffit - Spicy Love Muffit
Jet - Stolta Ebbas Einride of Sweden
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